Roundtable Discussion

Prayer and Meditation: Different Paths, Common Ground

Fr. Michael O'BrienAjahn SumedhoSheikh Ahmad KareemRabbi Miriam LeviDr. Lisa Chen

Prayer and Meditation: Different Paths, Common Ground

Five voices explore the inner practices that traditions use to find peace, and what science reveals about their effects.


Moderator: Many people wonder about the difference between prayer and meditation. Are they fundamentally different, or variations on a common human capacity?


Fr. Michael O'Brien (Catholic): In Christian tradition, we'd say prayer is relationship—conversation with God. But there's a form called contemplative prayer that looks remarkably like meditation. You quiet the mind, release thoughts, and simply rest in God's presence.

The Cloud of Unknowing, a 14th-century Christian text, instructs: "Center all your attention and desire on God and let this be the sole concern of your mind and heart."

So the practices can look similar, but the orientation differs. In prayer, we're addressing Someone.


Ajahn Sumedho (Buddhism): In Buddhist meditation, we're not addressing anyone—we're cultivating awareness itself. We observe the mind, notice thoughts arising and passing, and develop insight into the nature of experience.

But I'd add: these categories can blur. When a Buddhist cultivates metta—loving-kindness—toward all beings, is that so different from praying for others? The internal experience may be quite similar.


Sheikh Ahmad Kareem (Sufism): In Sufi practice, we have both—dhikr, which is remembrance of Allah through repeated sacred phrases, and muraqaba, which is silent contemplation. Dhikr is more like prayer; muraqaba is more like meditation.

But the goal is the same: polishing the heart, removing what veils us from the Divine. The Sufi master Rumi said, "There are a thousand ways to kneel and kiss the ground."


Rabbi Miriam Levi (Judaism): Jewish tradition has hitbonenut—contemplative meditation—and hitbodedut—spontaneous personal prayer. And of course formal liturgy, which is structured prayer.

What interests me is that even in formal prayer, when done with kavanah—intention and focus—it becomes a kind of meditation. The words become a vehicle for inner transformation.


Dr. Lisa Chen (Neuroscience): From a scientific perspective, what's fascinating is that different practices produce measurably similar effects on the brain. Whether someone is doing Christian centering prayer, Buddhist mindfulness, or Islamic dhikr, we see:

  • Reduced activity in the default mode network (associated with self-referential thinking)
  • Increased activity in attention networks
  • Changes in brain structure with long-term practice
  • Reduced cortisol and stress markers

The brain doesn't seem to care much about the theological framing—it responds to the practice.


Moderator: That's fascinating. Does it matter, then, what tradition one follows?


Fr. O'Brien: I think it does, but perhaps not for the reasons we might expect. The tradition provides context, community, and meaning. It's not just technique.

Someone practicing Christian contemplation is drawing on centuries of wisdom, participating in a community of practice, and framing their experience within a story of divine love. That context matters for sustainability and depth.


Ajahn Sumedho: I agree that context matters. But I'd also say: don't let arguments about context prevent you from starting. You can begin with simple breath awareness without any religious framework at all. The practice itself is valuable.

If you later find a tradition that speaks to you, wonderful. If not, the practice still benefits you.


Sheikh Ahmad: In Islam, we would say the intention (niyyah) matters. The same outward action can have different spiritual significance based on inner orientation.

But I also recognize that people outside Islam have found God through their practices. The Quran says, "We have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another."


Rabbi Levi: Judaism has always balanced particularism and universalism. Yes, we have our specific practices, but we also recognize that "the righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come."

I often suggest that people start where they are. If you have a tradition, explore its contemplative depths. If you don't, start with simple practices and see where they lead.


Dr. Chen: From a practical standpoint, what matters most is consistency. Ten minutes daily is more valuable than two hours once a month. And finding a practice that resonates with you—one you'll actually do—is more important than finding the "best" practice.

The research is clear: regular practice changes the brain and reduces suffering. Find your path and walk it.


Moderator: What advice would you give someone who wants to start but feels overwhelmed by the options?


Ajahn Sumedho: Start with one breath. That's all. When you remember, take one conscious breath. That's meditation.

Then, if you want, extend to five minutes of sitting. Then ten. Don't make it complicated.


Fr. O'Brien: I'd suggest trying a few things. Lectio Divina (sacred reading), centering prayer, the Jesus Prayer—these are accessible Christian practices. See what fits your temperament.


Sheikh Ahmad: In Sufism, we often start with breath awareness combined with dhikr—saying "Allah" or another divine name with each exhale. It grounds the mind in the sacred with each breath.


Rabbi Levi: Try sitting quietly before Shabbat candle-lighting. Or take a phrase from the prayers—"Shema Yisrael" for instance—and let it settle into silence.


Dr. Chen: And from a secular perspective, apps like Headspace or Calm can be helpful starting points. They won't give you the tradition, but they'll get you practicing.


Moderator: Any final thoughts?


Fr. O'Brien: St. Augustine said, "Our hearts are restless until they rest in You." Whatever practice helps quiet that restlessness is valuable.


Ajahn Sumedho: The Buddha said, "You yourself must strive. The Buddhas only point the way." Whatever path you choose, you must walk it.


Sheikh Ahmad: Rumi wrote, "What you seek is seeking you." Trust that the very desire for peace is itself a calling toward the Source of peace.


Rabbi Levi: The Talmud teaches that we're not required to complete the work, but neither are we free to abandon it. Start where you are. Do what you can.


Dr. Chen: And know that the science is on your side. This isn't just spiritual aspiration—it's measurable, practical, and it works.


This roundtable was facilitated by the Calm Faith Circle as part of our mission to present diverse perspectives without advocating for any single path.

This roundtable presents multiple perspectives without advocating for any. It is offered for reflection, not prescription, and is not a substitute for professional mental health support.